Comments on: I Disagree with Colin Powell

By: Tyler

Tyler — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:22:46 +0000

Hey Alli-

I’ll give you a couple things to read about that subject so we can focus on this current topic here.

http://manofdepravity.com/2008/02/11/guest-blog-abortion-in-politics/

http://manofdepravity.com/2008/05/27/we-the-purple-4/

http://manofdepravity.com/2008/10/13/abortion-in-politics/

By: Alli

Alli — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:30:57 +0000

Speaking of wanting to share similar beliefs…I hate to bring abortion into this, but what about Obama’s position on abortion? If I want to vote for someone whose belief system is similar to mine, how do I vote for Obama when I am pro-life? I am actually currently undecided and need to make up my mind pretty quick here, but I am struggling with this. I really like what Obama has to say on many issues, but being pro-life is big for me. I know that this is only one issue of many, but I am curious what other people think. Sorry, Tyler, for making your already controversial post even more so.

By: Tyler

Tyler — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:06:29 +0000

I think it would be much more likely for a Muslim to be elected then. I am not saying that Christians should always vote for Christians. My point is that we share some similar beliefs and a faith that Muslims do not completely share with us…not that a Muslim can’t make a great President.

By: rachel

rachel — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:36:02 +0000

What if this were a country with a majority of Muslims instead of Christians?

By: ash

ash — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:06:17 +0000

darin, if you don’t vote, then how can you have any room to raise your complaints and praises about the direction of the country? excuse me for being bold, but i believe that….

@ adam, i think you put my thoughts down in better words…

By: Tyler

Tyler — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:02:47 +0000

I should add that I don’t think that voting based on your beliefs/faith compromises separation church and state.

By: Darin

Darin — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:48:16 +0000

This is probably a big reason I don’t vote in presidential races.

Labels seem more like marketing then commitment. Instead of Christ influencing choices we either want or say Jesus endorses ours.

The current President is a prime example. I could use a lot fewer people looking for book chapter and verse to justify or excuse their actions. If they follow Christ wouldn’t bringing it up be the last thing they would do?

I always love finding someone is a believer by their actions and what they support.

By: Tyler

Tyler — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:56:59 +0000

Verena- “Faith should have nothing to do with politics.” Let me push back a little here, since I’ve almost said the opposite in my post. I’m not saying faith should be everything in politics but to say nothing seemed naive to me. Example here is George W. Bush had plenty of “faith based initiatives” and they were surrounded in his beliefs and values as a Christian. Obama has a similar plan, though their beliefs are values differ some. I’m sure a Muslim could come up with a similar plan but it would be coming out of different values and beliefs. People voted for W. Bush because of that plan and people are voting for Obama because of his plan. Both plans are surrounded by their Christian beliefs. Our faith should influence how we vote.

By: Verena Vogler

Verena Vogler — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:44:01 +0000

tyler, i disagree with u as well! faith should have nothing to do with politics, but in the u.s. it always did. i recommend you the documentary “campamento jesus”. you might have watched it already since you are completly into this topic.

By: adam

adam — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:30:46 +0000

Tyler,

I would have to say I disagree with you on this. Our faith should not be politicized at all. There should be a definite separation from church and state and if Senator Obama was an effective executive of his office it would not matter to me if he was Hindu, Muslim, etc. The Constitution gurantees the rights of all individuals and if a Muslim wants to run for president then he is afforded that opportunity. As a Christian, I would vote for him if I found his policies on running the government in line with my own. Christians need to realize that while having Christian values in government is preferable it is not a right nor a requirement for effective government.