Comments on: Fortuitous Bouncing http://manofdepravity.com/2008/11/22/fortuitous-bouncing-47/ Theology, Church ministry, Seminary, Worship // Proving that even bad writers get readers. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:58:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Elaine http://manofdepravity.com/2008/11/22/fortuitous-bouncing-47/comment-page-1/#comment-2974 Elaine Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:00:40 +0000 http://tylerbraun.wordpress.com/?p=1584#comment-2974 Really enjoyed the Atkinson post...reminded me of the book Roaring Lambs by Robert Briner (http://tinyurl.com/RoaringLambs). I actually haven't read it yet, but Seth has and found it to be excellent. Really enjoyed the Atkinson post…reminded me of the book Roaring Lambs by Robert Briner (http://tinyurl.com/RoaringLambs). I actually haven’t read it yet, but Seth has and found it to be excellent.

]]> By: Melinda Groth http://manofdepravity.com/2008/11/22/fortuitous-bouncing-47/comment-page-1/#comment-2973 Melinda Groth Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:31:52 +0000 http://tylerbraun.wordpress.com/?p=1584#comment-2973 I'd read the Atkinson post and felt like he was writing about what we experienced with Michael, when he chose to pursue theater and film, instead of going to seminary. It was bizarre. People acted like he had walked away from his faith! I’d read the Atkinson post and felt like he was writing about what we experienced with Michael, when he chose to pursue theater and film, instead of going to seminary. It was bizarre. People acted like he had walked away from his faith!

]]> By: chad http://manofdepravity.com/2008/11/22/fortuitous-bouncing-47/comment-page-1/#comment-2972 chad Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:47:08 +0000 http://tylerbraun.wordpress.com/?p=1584#comment-2972 I really like Efrem Smith, but I don't see how that passage supports redistribution of wealth, at least in our present understanding of that phrase. It absolutely shows that we as individuals must be willing to give to those in need because what we have really isn't ours. However, it definitely doesn't support me getting a check from the government that was funded by taxing other people. And it definitely doesn't support government handouts. You see, in the passage it talks about the poor and widows coming and harvesting the crops for themselves. Yes, the "owner" of the land planted the crops, cared for the crops, and then offered them; but those in need still had to come and harvest them. Besides being an "entitled" American, what did I do for that government check that came at the expense of someone else? Nothing. Oh, and by the way, middle class Americans would not be classified as "needy"... Also, the Bible says that we are to be good stewards with what God has entrusted to us. How wise has the government proven to be with the money they receive? Not very wise... And what about some of the programs that receive that money from the government. Does the Bible support each of them? No. The Bible does not support higher taxes to take care of people, but rather the Bible exhorts the believer to give generously and responsibly out of their own convictions. God is not interested in people being forced to give. It sort of defeats the purpose. Remember, "man looks at the outside appearance, but God looks at the heart." To be honest, if Efrem Smith is really using this passage to support redistribution of wealth via taxation... well, its just pretty ridiculous. I really like Efrem Smith and I am not even sure if this was really the point of what he was saying. I also completely support giving generously and taking care of those who need help. However, I certainly do not see present day redistribution of wealth in the Bible... Just my humble opinion :) I really like Efrem Smith, but I don’t see how that passage supports redistribution of wealth, at least in our present understanding of that phrase. It absolutely shows that we as individuals must be willing to give to those in need because what we have really isn’t ours. However, it definitely doesn’t support me getting a check from the government that was funded by taxing other people. And it definitely doesn’t support government handouts. You see, in the passage it talks about the poor and widows coming and harvesting the crops for themselves. Yes, the “owner” of the land planted the crops, cared for the crops, and then offered them; but those in need still had to come and harvest them. Besides being an “entitled” American, what did I do for that government check that came at the expense of someone else? Nothing. Oh, and by the way, middle class Americans would not be classified as “needy”…

Also, the Bible says that we are to be good stewards with what God has entrusted to us. How wise has the government proven to be with the money they receive? Not very wise… And what about some of the programs that receive that money from the government. Does the Bible support each of them? No.

The Bible does not support higher taxes to take care of people, but rather the Bible exhorts the believer to give generously and responsibly out of their own convictions. God is not interested in people being forced to give. It sort of defeats the purpose. Remember, “man looks at the outside appearance, but God looks at the heart.” To be honest, if Efrem Smith is really using this passage to support redistribution of wealth via taxation… well, its just pretty ridiculous. I really like Efrem Smith and I am not even sure if this was really the point of what he was saying. I also completely support giving generously and taking care of those who need help. However, I certainly do not see present day redistribution of wealth in the Bible… Just my humble opinion :)

]]> By: Seth http://manofdepravity.com/2008/11/22/fortuitous-bouncing-47/comment-page-1/#comment-2971 Seth Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:07:07 +0000 http://tylerbraun.wordpress.com/?p=1584#comment-2971 The Randy blindside was awesome. Jeff's delivery of "this is...NOT...and immunity idol" was awesome. Regarding the redistribution of wealth thing, my favorite comment was "Interesting that Jesus wasn't telling followers to leave crops in their field for tax collectors to come by." There's no question we should give more, but giving has always been shown to be in an inverse relationship with taxation. The Randy blindside was awesome. Jeff’s delivery of “this is…NOT…and immunity idol” was awesome.

Regarding the redistribution of wealth thing, my favorite comment was “Interesting that Jesus wasn’t telling followers to leave crops in their field for tax collectors to come by.”

There’s no question we should give more, but giving has always been shown to be in an inverse relationship with taxation.

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