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		<title>By: Matt Ralph</title>
		<link>http://manofdepravity.com/2009/03/18/follower-of-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto what Michael W. wrote.</description>
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		<title>By: Yonas</title>
		<link>http://manofdepravity.com/2009/03/18/follower-of-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-3869</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Michael W.

Ash- as usual, thanks for the acknowledgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Michael W.</p>
<p>Ash- as usual, thanks for the acknowledgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Acts 11:26 the disciples were called Christians.  I think it is noteworthy that it doesnt&#039; say that the disciples started calling themselves Christians.   Others called them Christians, and it must have been because they saw something different about them.  Our problem today is that the world isn&#039;t recognizing Christ in us.   If the world sees Christ in our lives and wants to call us Christians or Christ follower that would be awesome.

If we are just us trying to define ourselves with a name, so we can tell the world who we are, any label we come up with will fail.

The world will know we are His by our love - not by a name we call ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Acts 11:26 the disciples were called Christians.  I think it is noteworthy that it doesnt&#8217; say that the disciples started calling themselves Christians.   Others called them Christians, and it must have been because they saw something different about them.  Our problem today is that the world isn&#8217;t recognizing Christ in us.   If the world sees Christ in our lives and wants to call us Christians or Christ follower that would be awesome.</p>
<p>If we are just us trying to define ourselves with a name, so we can tell the world who we are, any label we come up with will fail.</p>
<p>The world will know we are His by our love &#8211; not by a name we call ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: eric Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It means there is so much uptight, judgemental, self consious, self centered ...people at church and it is very hard to participate in such a culture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means there is so much uptight, judgemental, self consious, self centered &#8230;people at church and it is very hard to participate in such a culture</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W</title>
		<link>http://manofdepravity.com/2009/03/18/follower-of-christ/comment-page-1/#comment-3866</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice the change as well.

Some of the comments brought up have made me think, especially saying that &quot;follower of Christ&quot; describes an action, rather than static. While I agree and understand that point, of the people that I know that use the term &quot;follower of Christ&quot; rather than &quot;Christian&quot;, almost all of them are simply trying to separate themselves from other &quot;Christians&quot;.

Too be honest, it bothers me a lot.

I went to a Church last week, their motto is &quot;Want God, not religion?&quot;. Fine, bashing religion is about as cool as it gets (never mind that the word &#039;religion&#039; simply means &#039;reverence of God&#039;). There is weight in saying that, they want to separate themselves from works based religion, whatever.

On this churches particular website, all over the place they talk about how they are &quot;not like other churches&quot;.

I really do find this irritating.

I feel like so much time is spent separating ourselves from a different Christian group, rather than affirming our very Christianity.

You aren&#039;t like THOSE Christians?

How so? You would probably agree with the Apostles or Nicene Creeds, 100%. You both worship the same God, namely Jesus.

You voted differently and dress differently (but not even that different. Is a 20 something hipster dressing in his coolest looking clothes and making his hair look perfect, that different than a 65 year old woman putting on her Sundays finest down south?) and of course have other differences, but you probably would agree on many things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice the change as well.</p>
<p>Some of the comments brought up have made me think, especially saying that &#8220;follower of Christ&#8221; describes an action, rather than static. While I agree and understand that point, of the people that I know that use the term &#8220;follower of Christ&#8221; rather than &#8220;Christian&#8221;, almost all of them are simply trying to separate themselves from other &#8220;Christians&#8221;.</p>
<p>Too be honest, it bothers me a lot.</p>
<p>I went to a Church last week, their motto is &#8220;Want God, not religion?&#8221;. Fine, bashing religion is about as cool as it gets (never mind that the word &#8216;religion&#8217; simply means &#8216;reverence of God&#8217;). There is weight in saying that, they want to separate themselves from works based religion, whatever.</p>
<p>On this churches particular website, all over the place they talk about how they are &#8220;not like other churches&#8221;.</p>
<p>I really do find this irritating.</p>
<p>I feel like so much time is spent separating ourselves from a different Christian group, rather than affirming our very Christianity.</p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t like THOSE Christians?</p>
<p>How so? You would probably agree with the Apostles or Nicene Creeds, 100%. You both worship the same God, namely Jesus.</p>
<p>You voted differently and dress differently (but not even that different. Is a 20 something hipster dressing in his coolest looking clothes and making his hair look perfect, that different than a 65 year old woman putting on her Sundays finest down south?) and of course have other differences, but you probably would agree on many things.</p>
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		<title>By: ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re probably right on that yonas...

of course, i&#039;m a writer and journalist, so to me, semantics ARE important and i think the change of words...and therefore mindset could be a great thing our generation in not only our lifestyle but reaching the lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re probably right on that yonas&#8230;</p>
<p>of course, i&#8217;m a writer and journalist, so to me, semantics ARE important and i think the change of words&#8230;and therefore mindset could be a great thing our generation in not only our lifestyle but reaching the lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still use Christian to describe myself for a couple of reasons.  First, as is pointed out, there is a lot of baggage associated with the term; the baggage--the history, the culture, the good and the bad--need to be addressed, not dismissed.  I am just one in a long line of Christians who were real people, doing things in their own culture that were, at times, entirely antichristian and, I might add, completely Christ-like.  For me, using something other than &quot;Christian&quot; is the same as saying, &quot;I&#039;m not Tomás de Torquemada&quot;, which, for me, is a little hypocritical.  There’s a little Inquisitor in all of us; I’d rather admit it and do what I can to correct it while embracing what is good and noble in our past.

Secondly, it is just semantics.  Christian means “little Christ”.  I personally like that.  It really does have the same meaning as “Follower of Christ” for me.  Therefore, I don’t see the need to replace one handy and useful title for a less meaningful (in my estimation) one.

Perhaps it matters what we call ourselves, but I suspect it really tells more of a story about ourselves than it does about reality.  It’s more about the story we tell ourselves than what the world actually sees. So, it has always struck me as sort of odd that such this is even an “issue”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still use Christian to describe myself for a couple of reasons.  First, as is pointed out, there is a lot of baggage associated with the term; the baggage&#8211;the history, the culture, the good and the bad&#8211;need to be addressed, not dismissed.  I am just one in a long line of Christians who were real people, doing things in their own culture that were, at times, entirely antichristian and, I might add, completely Christ-like.  For me, using something other than &#8220;Christian&#8221; is the same as saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m not Tomás de Torquemada&#8221;, which, for me, is a little hypocritical.  There’s a little Inquisitor in all of us; I’d rather admit it and do what I can to correct it while embracing what is good and noble in our past.</p>
<p>Secondly, it is just semantics.  Christian means “little Christ”.  I personally like that.  It really does have the same meaning as “Follower of Christ” for me.  Therefore, I don’t see the need to replace one handy and useful title for a less meaningful (in my estimation) one.</p>
<p>Perhaps it matters what we call ourselves, but I suspect it really tells more of a story about ourselves than it does about reality.  It’s more about the story we tell ourselves than what the world actually sees. So, it has always struck me as sort of odd that such this is even an “issue”.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semantics? Yes/No. Just like in the old days, some people say be a Christian, don&#039;t be a church goer.

I&#039;m sure there will be another new term sometime in the future..&#039;follower of Christ&#039; VS *insert new term here*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semantics? Yes/No. Just like in the old days, some people say be a Christian, don&#8217;t be a church goer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there will be another new term sometime in the future..&#8217;follower of Christ&#8217; VS *insert new term here*</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember being a Freshman in High School, and many of us took to calling ourselves &quot;Ninth Graders,&quot; believing that we weren&#039;t the stupid, clueless &quot;Freshman&quot; that the other folks (Sophmores, mostly) looked down upon (all while getting lost in the new, bigger school and going into the wrong restroom).

I think this is similar.  However, I don&#039;t have any particular problem with it.  But it might amount to basically personal affirmation.  &quot;I&#039;m not one of *those*...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember being a Freshman in High School, and many of us took to calling ourselves &#8220;Ninth Graders,&#8221; believing that we weren&#8217;t the stupid, clueless &#8220;Freshman&#8221; that the other folks (Sophmores, mostly) looked down upon (all while getting lost in the new, bigger school and going into the wrong restroom).</p>
<p>I think this is similar.  However, I don&#8217;t have any particular problem with it.  But it might amount to basically personal affirmation.  &#8220;I&#8217;m not one of *those*&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is definitely a shift in this direction, and my wife and I have found ourselves unable to fight the compulsion to jettison the label of &quot;Christian&quot;, as today for many people it is more a word that carries political connotations, and has no connection with what it measn to truly be a disciple of Christ...

This doesn&#039;t mean that we make the term &quot;Christian&quot; some kind of taboo word, it is understood that when used in the right sense, by the right people, it can still be perfectly fine.  But we recognize that using it as the default way to describe ourselves is usually more problematic than helpful...

The scriptures tell us that the first &quot;Christians&quot; were dubbed as such by outsiders, it was not a term they came up with themselves.  For a time, Jesus-followers were also known as &quot;Followers of the Way&quot;, which is a pretty cool way of describing ourselves if you ask me!  Jesus &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the Way, and He is who we follow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definitely a shift in this direction, and my wife and I have found ourselves unable to fight the compulsion to jettison the label of &#8220;Christian&#8221;, as today for many people it is more a word that carries political connotations, and has no connection with what it measn to truly be a disciple of Christ&#8230;</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean that we make the term &#8220;Christian&#8221; some kind of taboo word, it is understood that when used in the right sense, by the right people, it can still be perfectly fine.  But we recognize that using it as the default way to describe ourselves is usually more problematic than helpful&#8230;</p>
<p>The scriptures tell us that the first &#8220;Christians&#8221; were dubbed as such by outsiders, it was not a term they came up with themselves.  For a time, Jesus-followers were also known as &#8220;Followers of the Way&#8221;, which is a pretty cool way of describing ourselves if you ask me!  Jesus <i>is</i> the Way, and He is who we follow&#8230;</p>
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