Comments on: You Choose http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/ Theology, Church ministry, Seminary, Worship // Proving that even bad writers get readers. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:25:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Janaki http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5466 Janaki Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:46:03 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5466 I can admit it, music is really important to me. However, I did attend one of the larger, popular churches in Portland for almost a year. The music stunk, it really did, but we stuck around because the teaching was AMAZING. However, the reason we left is that we didn't connect with ANYONE in a year, and not for lack of trying. I can admit it, music is really important to me. However, I did attend one of the larger, popular churches in Portland for almost a year. The music stunk, it really did, but we stuck around because the teaching was AMAZING. However, the reason we left is that we didn’t connect with ANYONE in a year, and not for lack of trying.

]]> By: Tyler http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5465 Tyler Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:12:21 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5465 Carrie: That is such a GREAT point. I think we overlook this too often. Carrie: That is such a GREAT point. I think we overlook this too often.

]]> By: Carrie http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5464 Carrie Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:07:20 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5464 Personally, if I hated the music, I wouldn't stick around long enough to find out whether the community was good or not. I think that is probably true for lots of people, which is one reason why music is such an important issue. A church may have amazing community, but it takes time to see that. Personally, if I hated the music, I wouldn’t stick around long enough to find out whether the community was good or not. I think that is probably true for lots of people, which is one reason why music is such an important issue. A church may have amazing community, but it takes time to see that.

]]> By: Yonas http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5463 Yonas Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:21:08 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5463 Some people might come because of the good music, but not necessarily come for the sermon or creating community...or maybe because some have good community then you have bigger pool to find talented musicians, then produce good music and consequently you may have a bigger community...i dunno..kinda like chicken and egg..which one comes first? (and if you answer chicken...which one is the chicken?) Some people might come because of the good music, but not necessarily come for the sermon or creating community…or maybe because some have good community then you have bigger pool to find talented musicians, then produce good music and consequently you may have a bigger community…i dunno..kinda like chicken and egg..which one comes first? (and if you answer chicken…which one is the chicken?)

]]> By: Alan Wilkerson http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5462 Alan Wilkerson Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:11:31 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5462 I've been around long enough to understand that "community" is where it is it at. Had a person butcher a piece of music one Sunday and the great thing was, as a very, very talented musician said, where else can you fail like that and know you're loved and they'll invite you back to do it again?" If you hear John Wimber's reflection on church when he was a non-believer he remembered the bad music. Yet someone kept calling him back into that group of people and he finally let go and heard Christ's call. Tyler, I don't think most people leave over music. Music may be an expressed excuse but there is something else and it usually deals with a breakdown in the community and caring of the Body of Christ. Interesting to read the other posts Peace Alan I’ve been around long enough to understand that “community” is where it is it at. Had a person butcher a piece of music one Sunday and the great thing was, as a very, very talented musician said, where else can you fail like that and know you’re loved and they’ll invite you back to do it again?”

If you hear John Wimber’s reflection on church when he was a non-believer he remembered the bad music. Yet someone kept calling him back into that group of people and he finally let go and heard Christ’s call.

Tyler, I don’t think most people leave over music. Music may be an expressed excuse but there is something else and it usually deals with a breakdown in the community and caring of the Body of Christ.

Interesting to read the other posts

Peace
Alan

]]> By: ash http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5461 ash Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:11:51 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5461 i've been in both...and i'm a big believer in strong music, b/c of my background and the fact that it connects me to Him. but ...the strong community is always part of the equation. course, at this point in my life, i get the best of both worlds...the people i surround myself with are amazing. and the music i pick and choose gets my attention. david - you make a point in saying, both parts of a person need to be fed....(not nec. musically, but that vertical connection).... right answer? wrong one? yes, i mean no.....whatever the "answer"-it's where your heart is w/ God...and that's all i think truly counts. i’ve been in both…and i’m a big believer in strong music, b/c of my background and the fact that it connects me to Him. but …the strong community is always part of the equation. course, at this point in my life, i get the best of both worlds…the people i surround myself with are amazing. and the music i pick and choose gets my attention. david – you make a point in saying, both parts of a person need to be fed….(not nec. musically, but that vertical connection)….

right answer? wrong one? yes, i mean no…..whatever the “answer”-it’s where your heart is w/ God…and that’s all i think truly counts.

]]> By: ash http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5460 ash Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:05:35 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5460 aw, look, tyler, yonas knows how to kiss up. wink aw, look, tyler, yonas knows how to kiss up. wink

]]> By: David http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5459 David Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:16:48 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5459 I've never left a church over either (I've only ever left a church when moving city), so it's hard to know... But I think I definitely lean towards what Fred & Jennifer said...I don't think I could do one or the other, because its akin to trying to feed only part of you...it doesn't work. I’ve never left a church over either (I’ve only ever left a church when moving city), so it’s hard to know…

But I think I definitely lean towards what Fred & Jennifer said…I don’t think I could do one or the other, because its akin to trying to feed only part of you…it doesn’t work.

]]> By: Tyler http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5458 Tyler Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:07 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5458 Yeah I've said that a number of times on this blog and do believe it is true and is very indicative of what you were talking about. Yeah I’ve said that a number of times on this blog and do believe it is true and is very indicative of what you were talking about.

]]> By: Josh http://manofdepravity.com/2009/10/27/you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-5457 Josh Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:22:38 +0000 http://manofdepravity.com/?p=3788#comment-5457 isn't there a quote that says something along the lines of, "what we win them with we win them to" ?? Churches today are spending amazing amounts of time and money in their music ministry to attract people to their particular church. I think they do it because most of us want to go somewhere that has good music. No wonder a lot of people leave the church over music. That's what a lot of them went there in the first place for. Me? guilty as charged on that one....at least a few times. isn’t there a quote that says something along the lines of, “what we win them with we win them to” ?? Churches today are spending amazing amounts of time and money in their music ministry to attract people to their particular church. I think they do it because most of us want to go somewhere that has good music. No wonder a lot of people leave the church over music. That’s what a lot of them went there in the first place for.

Me? guilty as charged on that one….at least a few times.

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