Historic Night

I mulled just about every day from this past week, whether to blog about the finished election. I came to the conclusion that I haven’t been afraid (well at times I have, but mostly not) to blog about politics before, so what should stop me now. So here it goes.

barack obama election night 2008 President elect

Tonight was going to be a historic night either way. Obama represents the first African-American President in U.S. history and Palin would have been the first woman Vice President in U.S. history. Either would have been monumental. With all that said, today’s election of Obama deserves acknowledgment as a truly historic moment in time. No matter who you voted for or what you think of Obama, this night should be celebrated on that level at the highest volume. The echoes of what this means in history will likely be heard for hundreds of years.

Here are a few thoughts of mine:

  • The Democrats now have a strong majority in the House, Senate, and control the Executive Branch. Obama will have no excuses if nothing gets passed. It has been a long, long time since we have seen this type of one party domination. I don’t know that it is a real positive thing.
  • I happily enjoyed my free coffee at Starbucks and free donut at Krispy Kreme. All that just for voting. Pretty sweet!
  • As Christians, we are to submit to government authority. As Christians, we are also to be grateful for the leaders of our governments.
  • We should be seeking reconciliation with those we have wronged for being on the “other side.”
  • Just about half of the country didn’t want Obama to be President.
  • A solid majority of Christians voted for McCain, so it would be fair to say that a majority of Christians are pretty disappointed tonight. But like I’ve said before, our hope should not be in the U.S. government. Our hope lies in Christ. We should be praying for Obama and the government he will put in place.
  • It looks like all the gay marriage amendments fell in favor of those supporting marriage between a man and woman.

I believe that everyone needs to hear this. I really mean that (mostly the first 1:30). In this election more than any other, I’ve seen Christians put their hope in politics and government like never before. This video says what is on my heart more than anything else.

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Anything thoughts on the now finished election?

  • http://frazierblog.com Paul Frazier

    I am saddened by the response I am seeing from my Christians friends on facebook. On a night where such historic ground breaking history has been made, and the issue of race is becoming a non factor. Yet i feel like some Christians are making silly comments. One has gone as far to basically call him the anti-Christ.

    “This will make you re-think A Trivia question in Sunday School: How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations ? Guess the Answer?
    Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is. Almost a four-year term to a Presidency. All I can say is Lord
    Have Mercy on us.!!!!!!
    According to … eThe Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is:
    The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40’s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal….the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything…..
    Is it OBAMA??”

    Another, I believe has take Jesus out of context by posting on twitter.

    ” “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

    I myself am excited that I have witnessed the first black man being elected president. I am so glad to see the issue of race going away. I hope we can all take to heart the speech Obama gave where he said.

    “We are not a collection of Red States and Blue States — We are the United States of America”


  • kirk

    Let’s hope the issue of race does indeed “go away” with this election. I’m afraid the meter will hardly move.

  • http://manofdepravity.com Tyler

    Paul- In my opinion, those facebook friends of yours represent a small group of Christians who do tarnish what being a Christ follower should be about. At least I hope they are a small group.

  • http://ash-nits.blogspot.com ash

    well i have always struggled w/ party domination. whether republican or democrat, i don’t think it’s a bad thing to have a bit of opposition in the senate or house…simply b/c it presses the checks and balances system- which as we have seen at various times gets thrown out the window w/ one party in control. but we’ll see what happens. i hope that the democrats don’t swing completely the other way w/ policies in the country, rather keep each other in check to find middle ground

  • http://bryan-hills.blogspot.com bryan

    You nailed it……”Our hope lies in Christ”.
    Great post! Thanks!!

  • http://www.aworshipfulheart.typepad.com jan owen

    I believe you have hit at the heart of an issue that has bothered me for sometime. Our salvation does not lie in being American, although I am so extremely grateful to live in this country, our salvation lies in Jesus. I have wondered at times if we were more political than evangelical. This is an opportunity to pray for our country, to perhaps mature as believers, to really look at what bothers us and to hopefully take a huge step forward in regards to race and gender issues. I did not vote for Obama, and have my concerns, but I loved what that video reminded us of – our first “kingdom” is the Kingdom of God. My favorite line was “the gospel may run faster in times of hardship” – something I have wondered and thought. Obviously I don’t long for economic hardship, but it is something I have thought about. When we are SO comfortable, can we see our need for God???

  • Amy Elder

    So many thoughts … Jesus is certainly the answer to our problems not government … but the government certainly thinks they are, and a basically unchecked executive and legislative branch will certainly bring about change. I just hope the change that half the country thinks they want is what they actually get.

    On a local level, our property taxes will go up almost $1000 next year …. thanks to people who think that government and taxes are great. Change is not always good.

    Praying for our leaders without a doubt … not quite to grateful yet.

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  • http://manofdepravity.com Tyler

    Amy- I think Obama spoke to that in his speech (as to government not being all the answers). As far as our property taxes…apartment living really isn’t so bad ;)….I’m not too stoked about that being passed either.

  • http://www.alittleofme.wordpress.com leah

    it saddens me to hear that a majority of Christians are disappointed with the results. because really, arent there greater issues in this world than gay marriages? and i have to disagree with your quote on “submit[ing] to government authority]”. perhaps you could elaborate…

    anyway, and this is coming from a Canadian… i seriously want to be an American just for a little while after last night. =) all i saw was unity last night… and that… is a beautiful thing. hmmm, makes me want to blog right about now.



  • Kirk

    Amy, not just that. The tax cuts made earlier this decade will expire next year, and Obama will not renew them. Everyone will see their taxes increase, as those tax cuts were made across the board.

    Oh well, the people have spoken.

  • http://www.jenniclayville.com Jenni Clayville

    I’ll be honest… I didn’t vote for Obama. Like you said – half of America didn’t. However, now that he’s our new elect, we MUST respect the office he holds… he will be our leadership.

    The last 8 years has been full of rumblings from people who don’t respect and have bashed our president. I was so impressed with McCain in his speech last night – when his supporters boo’d Obama, he looked truly disappointed and spoke out about respect. McCain said he’d do all he could possibly do to support and help Obama in the next 4 years. So should we!

  • http://seth.heasley.net/blog Seth

    I just hope there’s honest reporting of what Obama’s policies really do, whether good or bad. I don’t expect it’ll happen, though.

    Paul, I’m actually more concerned that those Facebook folks actually think Revelation says what they think it says. Not a word of that was even close. If they’re that flip with scripture, it’s hardly surprising they’d be immature in their reactions to politics.

  • http://manofdepravity.com Tyler

    Leah- Great question. I’ll look at this from a Biblical standpoint. Romans 13:1-2 says,

    “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”

    Seth- Great point.

  • http://www.alittleofme.wordpress.com leah

    mmm… ok, well when i first read that line… i guess i put too much emphasis on the word “submit” because i was like… ummm, i think submitting to God would be better. but yes, yes… that Bible- you gotta love it. for some reason the word “submit” there didn’t quite hold a strong “hold it!” point than the one i read in your post.

  • http://ash-nits.blogspot.com ash

    leah, if you’d like to be our surrogate american, we’ll let you…he he…truth is, most americans are not disappointed. remember over 70% of eligible voters voted and nearly 56% of that vote went to obama who only needed 51…we will just see…time will be the judge at this point.

  • http://theasylum.wordpress.com/ John Self

    I thought McCain gave a career-best speech with his concession, and I was disappointed by the ungracious response from some of his supporters during the speech, when Obama was mentioned. I had felt the same way, and a good deal of sympathy for McCain, when a few supporters made hysterical allegations against Obama during McCain’s appearances on the campaign trail. McCain is a decent man and his frustration and disappointment with some of his supporters was clear to see. Having said that, he did campaign that Obama was not fit to be president and so to some extent it’s not surprising when some of his supporters boo Obama’s name now that McCain praises him.

    The passing of Proposition 8 in California, and similar measures in other states, saddened me on an otherwise great day for American politics. One of its proponents said, “People believe in the institution of marriage.” I agree, and this is a very good reason why same-sex couples should be allowed to enter it too. I don’t see that my own heterosexual marriage would be devalued by homosexual marriage.

  • http://manofdepravity.com Tyler

    Ash and Leah- He could have gotten less than 50%…all you have to do is win the electoral college. You don’t even need the most votes.

    John- I would have voted for Prop 8 to keep marriage between a man and a woman. Of course I’m not in any of the states that voted on similar measures. Here is why. If I was not a Christian I would probably vote the other way because part of me can see why it would be viewed as discrimination….BUT, the Bible is very clear about God’s creation of man and woman being “good,” and there is nothing within the Bible that lends any support to gay marriage.

  • Kirk

    John, go back and watch Kerry’s concession speech on election night. Guess what? He didn’t give one, although it was pretty clear he had lost. His supporters were up in arms that “Bush would steal the election.” Such grace. Take a look at Gore’s concession speech (before he took it back) on election night. I recall lots of boos. My point is, after a long, hard fought campaign, it’s only natural to assume some will react that way. I don’t condone it, but I expect it. I thought McCain was very gracious.

    As for the gay marriage issue. For me, it’s not just about the bible and God’s word. Society itself has every right to set standards. No one is telling people they can’t be together, live together, love whoever they want. But marriage is a fundemental building block of society,and some relationships are more meaningful TO SOCIETY than others. By that, I mean the relationship of one man and one woman can produce off-spring, where’as no matter how they try, the homosexual marriage will never produce children. Because of this I see every reason why society should protect the institution.

    A couple other reasons.. if marriage is ‘all about love, and we should be able to marry who we love’, as gay marriage proponents argue, then where does that reasoning stop? Should the brother and sister be able to marry if they love each other? Should the man be able to marry his 2 girlfriends? Why not? What if they love each other? No matter how much the proponents hate to go there, the slippery-slope argument is a real concern.

    Here’s another reason. Say we had a society that allowed gay marriage. Teachers of young children would, by law, be forced to not discriminate between the heterosexual marriage, and homosexual marriage when discussing the institution. Children are very influentual, especially young ones, and suddently the prospect of marrying little suzy, instead of little Johnny someday becomes far more real to them. What this will due, I’m sure of it, over time, is to weaken the family unit.. a unit that has been under great stress for many years now, and needs all the help it can get. Strong families with a mom and dad raising kids is our best chance in the long term to forge a healthy society, and society should elevate that chance at every turn.

  • http://www.acamann.com Andy

    Probably just splitting hairs here, but in your post you said that “half of the country didn’t want Obama to be president” and I don’t think that’s entirely true. Just because someone wanted McCain to be president more, doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t want Obama to be president at all. I think too often, politics become an all-or-nothing divide – love vs. hate, hope vs. fear. But there are strong and weak qualities in every one of us, including presidental candidates. I voted for Obama, but had McCain won, I would have also been excited about the ways I believe he would have brought the country together.

    Great post – hooray for free coffee!

  • http://manofdepravity.com Tyler

    Andy- I totally agree. I guess I could word that different. My point is that about half the country chose someone else to be their President.

  • Yonas

    I’m a bit confused…either I have a math problem, or I have a language problem (or both). If you said half the country didn’t want Obama to be the president, so that means the other half didn’t want McCain to be the president?

    Not that it matters now! I’m just curious about that statement.

  • http://manofdepravity.com Tyler

    Yonas- It is as you said.

  • http://ash-nits.blogspot.com ash

    yes, i understand the electoral college…let’s hope so anyway. but it’s b/c of popular vote vs electoral votes that caused problems in the last two elections. so the fact that popular vote was more than enough for obama says a whole stinkin lot in this case!

  • http://theasylum.wordpress.com/ John Self

    Tyler, I take your point. Clearly we are coming at this from different angles, and I think it centres on how you define ‘marriage’. For me, marriage is a legal recognition of a partnership between two people, which may or may not have an additional church blessing depending on the wishes of the couple. You may view marriage as a union in the eyes of God, for which the legal recognition is secondary.

    It will probably also be clear from my comments that, to me, the Bible’s lack of recognition for same-sex relationships (or condemnation of them) comes from the fact that the Bible reflects the social mores of the times when it was written, and society has moved on. It would be possible (but tiresome) for me to list other examples of social taboos in the Bible which would now be considered outdated. If you (again I presume, without intending offence) view the Bible as the inerrant word of God, then that will lead you to take a different view.

    Kirk, I agree that McCain was gracious, and also that the actions of his supporters who booed were no more reprehensible than those of Kerry’s in 2004. My point really was that McCain deserved better from his supporters and could be seen, not just then but through the campaign when people made wild accusations against Obama (remember him having to take the mike off the woman who called Obama an Arab?), to be embarrassed and frustrated by some of the people he was lumbered with as supporters.

    The question of society’s values re gay marriage is an interesting one. Society changes its views over time – look at the difference for black Americans between 1968 and 2008 – and laws reflect this. Sometimes the lawmakers lead society, sometimes they follow it. It’s clear that views on the issue have shifted in recent decades, and the California vote shows a pretty close balance. Again the key word seems to be ‘marriage’. Recent polls show that although a majority oppose gay marriage, when it comes to civil unions equivalent to marriage, people tend to be split evenly, one-third opposed to any recognition of homosexual relationships, one-third approving of civil unions only, and one-third approving of full gay marriage. You can see samples of polls on the issue here.

    That being the case, it’s pretty clear that, if laws are to follow what is “meaningful TO SOCIETY” as Kirk puts it, then same-sex relationships will have to have some legal recognition in the near future. Increasing numbers of countries in Europe already have such laws. Here in the UK, they’re known as civil partnerships and give same-sex couples all the rights of married couples, except the word ‘marriage’. In the three years since they were introduced, there has been no sign of a weakening of marriage, although I am sure there are people keeping an eye on the figures with great anticipation, one way or the other.

  • http://brentinworship.com/blog brent(inWorship)

    Good post and great discussion here Tyler.

    I am blown away by this election and as you said, the history of it, whoever was to be elected.

    It is a great day for America, to make the statement that race is behind us. Obviously this isn’t true for all, but we truly have made a statement to the world.

  • kirk


    I have no problem with civil unions between whomever, with the full granting of rights. I’d like to see marriage remain as it has been defined for several thousand years now.. one man, and one woman.

    The analogy to race and how it was viewed in the recent past is a false one, in my opinion. For me, the difference is this: Racial differences, while existing, are actually quite insignificant. Black guys, white guys, asian guys, are not much different at all. Same with black women, white women, asian women, etc al’. Men are men, women are women… race plays a very small part in our differences. My point is, the difference between a black man and a white man is so terribly small when compared to the difference between any man, and any women (obviously there are exceptions, but generally speaking here). Therefore, when it comes to same-sex marriage versus marriage between different races, we are really talking about apples and oranges, and the analogy quickly falls apart. Just my humble opinion here.